Monday, June 16, 2008

To those who think anwar ibrahim should lead us...think again!

I've compiled below a detailed & unedited postings/responses from group members (which I've copied & paste) from a forum in Facebook. Their responses are based from the topic I created: "To those who think Anwar Ibrahim should lead us...think again"!!!


Post #1
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You wroteon Jun 13, 2008 at 7:44 PM
I wont say anythn much, but do spare some time & visit this site for some enlightenment on the man that sold his soul to the devil:

www.anwaribrahimdotcom.blogspot.com

Enjoy!

Post #2
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Abd Qarem Han wroteon Jun 13, 2008 at 7:57 PM
i've been thinkin... again and again... still comes to one conclusion that this fuckin UM-NO and BN are the biggest ARSE HOLE in this world...

Post #3
Joe Yap Wei Lea replied to your poston Jun 13, 2008 at 8:02 PM
if BN continues to lead us... it's will be us suffering... why not we just take this bet for a better future?

Post #4
You replied to Abd's poston Jun 13, 2008 at 8:25 PM
ermmm ok.... So r there anyone else in PR besides DSAI that has the leadership quality for M'sia? Or r u saying that there's nobody else or lack of options in PR leadership? What do u thnk of Lim Guan Eng? He's humble, down to earth, attentive, intelligent n resourcefull but of coz he doesnt hv d charisma of DSAI... but if charisma is an important ingredient... Then who else?

Post #5
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Neil Chan wroteon Jun 13, 2008 at 8:25 PM
Well he was supposed to, being next in line until his ex-bos decided Anwar was too popular for his own liking..but he's more of an oppo figurehead at the moment..but yeah in the end it could be some else as long as their qualified..

Post #6
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Zamzari Mohd replied to Neil's poston Jun 13, 2008 at 8:28 PM
Malaysia will only can stand about 3-4 years if DSAI rule..
by then malaysia will suffer because all petronas money been used so called to help the ppl by giving subsidy will be finish..
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then he will start asking help from IMF & end up malaysia being like indonesia..

Post #7
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Neil Chan replied to Zamzari's poston Jun 13, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Tun was no angel himself..now only the true picture of him emerge..imagine trying to control the judiciary i.e. threatening judges to toe his line and pass judgements favorable for his administration..See Chief Justice Ian Chin's shocking revelation.. what a shameful act for an ex leader of the country.
Never had much regard for the man but i have to acknowledge his "rat cunning"

Post #8
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You replied to Neil's poston Jun 13, 2008 at 9:12 PM
To cut d story short, i felt tht DSAI is an important figure to d opposition becoz the ppl wanted to use him. Its a win-win situation. BN itself is a coalation of parties with multi-racial supporters. So the only way to topple it is to have a stronger coalition. DAP cant do it by thmslvs, PAS cnt do it by thmslvs... Hence d creation of PKR tht acts as d glue to keep all the opposition parties 2gether... Which is, the brainchild of DSAI of coz. So... U c, d ppl has no choice but 2 vote n support him in order to topple d govt. He on d other hand wld enjoy ths trust of power tht d ppl has given him based on this reason n fact alone.

DSAI himself is corrupted. But if u dont mind that yr leader supports cronysm n nepotism... Thn go ahead...support him. I c no difference in our struggle to reform our country by introducing a far more corupted tyrant as a leader. I believe in REFORMATION but not CONDEMNATION.

Post #9
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You replied to Neil's poston Jun 13, 2008 at 9:24 PM
why r we comparing? TDM is irrelevant in ths topic. Who said TDM was an angel? Despite his iron-fist or evil-doing, at least d poverty level of d country decreases 40% during his reign of fear. At least he knows how to juggle d country's economics structure. As ironic as it sounds...Money is d root of all evil.

So now, lets focus on TDM'S n govt past misdeeds... By doin this, we would b able to move frwrd...congrats...its d way to go... While d usurper DSAI slithers in to power like a snake himself n poison d country n d rakyat. Congrats!

Post #10
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Wan Ikram Nadleeh replied to your poston Jun 14, 2008 at 1:27 AM
u complain n complain... But whn others r against u or contradict yr views...u condemn them...wtf? We're nt encouraging communism r we? Nate beghuk, anok haghe... (ayat sapo nih? mamat tu bagi pandangan dia,.. dan juga sini bukan tempat politik..) kalau bn x naik harga minyak.. semua orang x marah punya.. sampai sekarang saya tiada dengar jawapan kenapa minyak di naik kan.. tolong jawab 1 soalan saya.. kenapa minyak naik harga?

Post #11
Chee Yoong replied to your poston Jun 14, 2008 at 3:02 AM
Well, if not him, who else... Nik Aziz ?? Lim Guan Eng ?? Khairy ?? Najib ?? Muhyiddin ??

Post #12
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Mohd Zaini Bin Shaferi replied to your poston Jun 14, 2008 at 4:34 AM
DSAI is more corrupted than the rest of Malaysian leaders....I do not wish to see my childrens suffer more in future if this culprit become our PM.....I only believe that Pak Lah should step down before he embarass us further. He is an idiot and should let other people be a PM but definitely not DSAI....

Post #13
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Debbie Teo replied to your poston Jun 14, 2008 at 7:23 AM
i guess no one is truly an angel. and sad to say many believe that TDM isnt either.
but regardless of what one does - corrupted or not. evil or otherwise. atleast TDM contribution can be seen and it did benefit the country. long term or otherwise.

One who runs a country need to see things in a bigger picture. One who runs a country needs to be a "MAN" not a boy that is easily manipulated.

A country such as ours - should be run by SOMEONE who does not see it as just being what it is. It should not be dictated by religion or race or gender. Nor should it be run by lairs and most DEFINATELY not by their Son-In-Laws or Daughter-In-Laws or Mother-In-Laws or Father-In-Laws....well you get the picture.

Rome was not built in one day. Nor was our Country. Lets hope and pray that our so called Leaders do not let it crumble.

Post #14
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You replied to Wan's poston Jun 14, 2008 at 9:15 AM
sry dude...we're talkin abt anwar here. Anyway may i knw whts yr point of copyin n pastin my msgs frm d wall here? Quite freaky la dude... N yr question abt y d price hike.... *dooohhhh* if u dont knw by now means u've not read much... Its not d petrol hike that causes d prob la dude..... Its d drastic 40% incline thats really matters. Bapak mahal gila.... Aku pong nak tau napa mahal sgt. Ni dok tunggu jawapan ni...kita sama2 tgk apa diorg nak jawap

Post #15
You replied to Debbie's poston Jun 14, 2008 at 9:21 AM
well said debbie. Keep the faith!

Post #16
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You replied to Mohd's poston Jun 14, 2008 at 9:29 AM
i share d exact same thoughts dude. There r quite a numbr of dsai fanatics here that cant take d heat. I pity them...

Nway... Peeps... do put down yr own preferrence or suggestions of paklah's replacement regardless if its realistic or not... Lemme knw yr thoughts in this....

Post #17
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Alan Tan (University of Liverpool) replied to your post21 hours ago
I am behind u dude. DSAI as charismatic as he may be, I am rather cautious about his character wise ie; TDM revealed Anwar's ambitious character to ppl in a talk in London where he said Anwar aimed to become the PM in 10 years during his reign..Although that may not be relevant but wat worries me the most is Anwar's close links with IMF. Apparently, that is also one of the reasons for the fell-out with TDM. I would hate to see M'sia borrowing money from IMF or World Bank. they will hold us by the balls if that does happened one day.

Regarding the petrol price increase, I don't blame Pak Lah fully although I felt that he was clearly incompetent as a PM because he couldn't gain control over his subordinates. Come on..the crude oil price is increasing all over the world and there is nothin we can do about it. Having said that, I felt the Gov't could have managed the country's economy more wisely. the rakyat will not complain if the Gov't can do something to lessen our burden. The problem wit M'sia is that the price for everything is increasing except the salary.

If TDM can bring us through 1997, Pak Lah 'ought' to have been able to do the same thing now but it seems that he has the Midas Finger curse. However, rather than turning what he touches into gold, he turns them into shit.

If he can't play his part, please step down.

PS: Ppl may complain bout TDM on his notoriety, dictatorship etc etc as they like. But I'll have no complaints if it will bring the country forward. Look at Singapore's Lee Dynasty..will u complain?

Post #18
Wan Ikram Nadleeh replied to your post21 hours ago
iya saya tak tau.. pasal maklumat yang diberi kabur..

Post #19
Yan Zhi Lee wrote13 hours ago
make growth & development show before think of raking in the people's money into own pockets.
maybe should have a law restricting the financial in/outs of politicians? if u wan be politician, then say byebye to all ur bank accounts, no Swiss bank accounts etc. If country develop and growth is seen, then the people should think of rewarding this politician with money for him/her to retire and live well. wont that be a nice idea? hehe~

Post #20
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Debbie Teo replied to Alan's post11 hours ago
Alan, you're right.

I dont care if TDM was a dictator and etc. But atleast during his reign, we survived 1997. We progressed!

But eversince AB took over - its been nothing but downhill.
He needs to step up his game or step down.
He doesnt need to be a horrible evil dictator but i guess he needs help in his management skills and learn to lead and not be manipulated.

Post #21
Edward Lam replied to Debbie's post11 hours ago
*nod*nod*

Post #22
You replied to Debbie's post9 hours ago
well...pak lah will step dwn...pretty soon n of coz he's alrdy announcd his successor. So what dyall thnk of najib? I knw fr sure tht d oppositions r being poisoned by anwar's accusation whch led thm to belief that he played a part of altantuya's murder case as well as d submarine's sale comission. Nvrtheless najib supports d idea of bangsa malaysia.... And to me, until he's proven guilty thn only i will condemn him. As fr now, despite of my doubts, he has my vote of confidence over pak lah anytime.

But if the opposition rules... I'd choose Guan Eng over Anwar anytime...hands down.

Post #23
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Agalya Munusamy replied to your post4 hours ago
i'm just simply askin that if i say anything here can i be sure that i wont be arrested under the Sedition Act??

=D... under this current government that is.

Post #24
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You replied to Agalya's post4 hours ago
so far nobody's feelin any heat... go ahead agalya.... just think hard b4 postin... no cyber warriors here as far as i know

Post #25
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Kallen Anthony wrote2 hours ago
Damn...i rather support him than the BN.......he is so well known through out the world.... Badawi????? Who ah??? even my friends from UK thinks that DR m was even better off.....

Post #26
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Agalya Munusamy replied to your post38 minutes ago
nah its okie... i was just trying to give anyone a light moment!.. coz u know the current office is trying really to hit one the 'young' ones who cant be 'grateful' to the gov by voting for the opposition.. especially by spreading 'rumours' through the net n blogging and stuff!!

lemme just ask how many 'young' by that meaning below 25 years of age maximum actually voted as compared to everyone above that 25?..

i remember DSAI mentioning to promise to reduce oil prices if they became the gov... i think now many ppl r reconsidering it!.. well atleast they should..

Post #27
You replied to Kallen's post34 minutes ago
him as in DSAI? so... just because he is well known in the world, that means he deserves the leadership? Is that how u judge & elect your leader? Through fame?

Post #28
You replied to Agalya's post3 minutes ago
They can promise the world if they want to...just to garner support. Welcome to the world of politics. Trust me... it's a dirty job.

It is so easy to say it isn't it? "Vote for me & i shall bring down the petrol price".... waaahhhh syoknye!!! Ma'am.... it aint that easy. To those simple minded people.... it's music to their ears.

The Selangor government has not lived up to the Pakatan Rakyat's promises of lower taxes and free education.....just to name a few.

This is an "eye-opener and a lesson" to new/youth voters.

The new state government is being given certain leeway to perform by the people of Selangor. However, it will quickly lose its goodwill if the people's interest are not given priority.

My advise is.... continue educating yourself...read more....learn more...keep on asking question...regardless if it sounded dumb or naive. Information is Power!

Dont judge a person or party based on merely speeches. Remember this.... "An Idle Mind Is The Devil's Playground"

Post #29
Mohd Zaini Bin Shaferi replied to your poston Jun 19, 2008 at 7:17 AM
looking at the current situation now, i would say muhyiddin yassin looks quite impressive right now with his logical comments instead of najib who looks as weak as pak lah....but well, to be frank i still doubt we have an excellent candidates to fill in the big shoe that tun has left....

Post #30
Ezai Lefty wroteon Jun 19, 2008 at 11:17 AM
well we do not have much choices do we? or bring back Dr. M ..hes my favorite..


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